On The Subject of Victoria Winters

This has been coming up rather frequently with new friends in my endeavour so I wanted to relay what I am sharing with them in recent letters.

 
I can see how many fans would look at Victoria Winters as the likely marriage partner for Barnabas on the grounds that Barnabas longed for her and often. For some elder fans that longing could have really stuck, as well as the strong person Victoria showed herself to be from The First Year of Dark Shadows.

 
I also expected that, in the 1960’s soap-opera, this relationship would develop naturally into a romance. As I continued to view the program, it was hedging in that direction via Barnabas’ bite on Victoria that had an hypnotic effect. Then she sees someone, who to her, is Peter Bradford from her time-travel period into the 1790’s. It then turns out to be some schmoe named Jeff Clark instead.

 
After many, many, many episodes Jeff Clark discovers that he is INDEED Peter Bradford. Victoria and Jeff finally get married, supernatural weirdness happens to Jeff to take him back to the 1790’s (along with wacky stuff of him being involved in Eve’s previous life filling up some prior episodes).

 
Victoria then endlessly bemoans the loss of her husband. Barnabas proposes marriage to her quite a few times and with that she declines, at first politely but in stronger terms with each successive proposal. (Yes, the actresses changed but I rather doubt the writers would have gone in another direction with Victoria if her role was still portrayed by the original actress.)

 
I was also extremely touched that when Victoria returned to the past to find Peter again, Barnabas went back as well to help the both of them through the struggle. It showed he loved her in a very selfless way, which was part of his own personal growth. (And then FINALLY one couple could live happily ever after on this bloody show!)

 


 
Now there are other productions of Dark Shadows. In the original I found evidence, as many others did, that Maggie Evans was the reincarnation of Josette duPres, Barnabas’ long-lost love.
Newer versions switch the reincarnation of Josette duPres to be Victoria Winters.

 
This is known as condensing.

 
Other productions of Dark Shadows are much shorter.

 
One good example of condensing a story is taking the book Anne of Green Gables and making it into a film as was done in 1934. The film was 78 minutes in length and didn’t provide an enormous amount that was in the book for the sake of time. Rachel Lynde and Mrs. Barry, Diana Barry’s mother, became a single character. Other components of the original story were changed for a faster pace, as well.

 
With the Revival of Dark Shadows in the early 1990’s, Victoria Winters is the reincarnation of Josette duPres. (Maggie Evans gets the shocking role of being Roger’s cheap affair girl. Ewl…)

 
In the unaired 2004 WB pilot, that many more of us have been able to watch, Victoria Winters is shown to be that reincarnation of Josette duPres yet again. (And there is no untoward version of Maggie Evans in our midst. Thank you!)

 
For the Dark Shadows motion picture that was released in 2012, there is a merge where Maggie Evans changes her name to Victoria Winters for the sake of covering up a tragic past, and for which I was very grateful! Again, she is the reincarnation of Josette duPres.

 
(Yes, I mentioned the movie. If you have just suffered a heart-attack because of this please dial 911 on your telephone to get some help and, after you recover, seek a good therapist. Some of us aren’t so sensitive to entertainment we don’t like. We simply turn it off.)

 
There is also “House of Dark Shadows”, released in 1970, giving Maggie Evans the role as the reincarnation of Josette duPres once again. Although it was definitely more horror than romance however much some enjoy the photos to get a sense of romance from it. (I am included in this fun, if startling, group of people.) Barnabas maintained his sense of villainy throughout much of it, which was an original intention on the television show that changed when the audience got hot for the guy.

 
So the pattern just keeps coming up to the point I stroke my chin when viewing “Bram Stoker’s Dracula” (1992) or even “Love At First Bite” (1979).

 
In any case, the big reason in the switch from Maggie Evans to Victoria Winters to merging the two characters is condensing a very long story into a much shorter one. And I am grateful I have reached the sanity, along with others, to be able to actually have these conversations as we might have had ten years ago.

 
In The Pit of Ultimate Dark Shadows we are focusing on the original 1960’s characters from Dark Shadows. Within that show Victoria Winters briefly agreed to marry Barnabas Collins and changed her mind upon seeing her own long-lost love from 1795. Later Victoria was determinedly devoted to Peter (Jeff). His disappearance led her to almost jumping off of Widows Hill to die and be with him again. (Much repeating of Professor Stokes words on the topic echoing throughout these episodes.)

 
This is why I often express that I ask the characters what they want and do my best to provide that. Our 1960’s Victoria Winters didn’t reciprocate Barnabas’ romantic affection minus a very brief spell. I can see the allure of it and I’m also grateful that it exists.

 
However, with Victoria Winters of the 1960’s program I saw a lot more unveiling in her own personal needs, choices and desires. It’s just that Barnabas Collins wasn’t one of them. Believe it or not I have even heard long complaints when Barnabas pines for Victoria to which I respond, “Cut the guy a break. He’s in love. It does that stuff to a person.”

 
So, in The Pit of Ultimate Dark Shadows, that is why it is not a Victoria/Barnabas story. I know many fans cling to that for the 1960’s original. Part of it might be those long ago memories that faded and are now coming back in finally re-watching the series. Emotions linger, for humans they can be memory keepers. Another part might be due to the newer productions of Dark Shadows that are more geared toward Victoria Winters with Barnabas Collins, whether she has changed her name or hasn’t.

 
With this in mind I felt it was important to finally write up a log entry about it. Hopefully it will help those who read it.

 
Take care,

 

Daryl

 

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200 Years Away/Margaret Josette Dupres (Update 2017)

This is an update I’m leaving for those interested in more of either version of this book-in-progress. I don’t want to post it to Facebook because I feel a lot better not using that network, nor enabling anyone interested in my work to believe I approve of using it to support me. I hope you all had a great Thanksgiving! 🙂

There have unfortunately been stalls in the continuation of this work.

I was using something the internet once managed in plenty known as “The Honour System”, that is: Unsupervised arrangement in which customers or users help themselves to goods or services and are relied upon to pay for what they take. In this case it would have been feedback and discussion rather than cash of any kind. (Or worse the new Monopoly money of “like-buttons” and stat hits.)

It is true that “Margaret Josette Dupres” was doing very well for that, but somewhere along the way the practice of book-club discussion eroded and most of what was gleaned became generalized positivity, similar to what all versions of the like-button enhances by so much exposure to the constant use of it.

One reason the novel grew into something better from the first draft was fans of this couple reached out to me and we discussed the character’s lives on the original program within the 1790’s, 1890’s and 1960’s time-periods. When that discussion began running low there wasn’t much more to go on. On top of that this work is also derived from an interruption series known as “The Pit of Ultimate Dark Shadows” which is nowhere near complete. Hence, the alterations in our beloved characters lives can only be understood as far as what that interruption series currently contains, as well as the original Dark Shadows, Clue: The Movie, and The Ghost & Mrs. Muir.

In the last year or so this natural and required discussion dwindled. So, all of these things are taking much longer than one would presume.

There will need to be some changes in tenses in the third draft of the novel so that all the details are combined evenly in chronology with the audio drama.

If all of this seems rather technical, it is. I resigned from a good job to take on all of this work fully and obtain the needed help and discussion from the right people who had a vested interest. Unfortunately most of what I got instead was invitations to waste time in Zuckerberg Land (Facebook) and its various carbon copies.

I am grateful to have found, and continue to find, the needed discussion for “The Pit…” project in the old-fashioned ways that still work, and work better: pen friends and letters. However, these friends I lovingly garnered have little to no interest in the novel, just the audio show.

In my July Update and Retrospective podcast of 2017 I offered a podcast about “Margaret Josette Dupres” if it was wanted, but I would need at least twelve readers of the novel to send me a message (preferably by email) for me to make that production. I have yet to receive a single request from any readers. I await those twelve requests. 🙂

I let Melissa and Lisa, close friends now in this endeavour, know that even as I’ve depleted the social network poison of Facebook from my system, I still care deeply about our shared group of members who came or were invited to the Barnabas & Maggie group on Facebook. I’ve created other avenues outside of Facebook for these fans to socialize, but that virtual playground can be an extremely difficult thing to stop using. (It took me a year of hard work and good help to do it. It is the worst addiction I have ever had, and no joke!)

One network I will, for the time being, still use is Google Plus. This online zone can be difficult to use and I believe this is on purpose to be a set of tools better employed by people who are either more tech savvy or can take on the challenge and enjoyment of learning. This makes it less addictive and therefore less attractive to the spoon-fed masses. If email is somehow “too scary” then I offer that online location. I created a Barnabas and Maggie group on Google Plus which is currently public but we can privatize it if the need arises.

I do all of this for the sake that I realized the chat wasn’t coming years ago due to the overwhelming show of non-canon pairings in Dark Shadows fandom online, and that would easily mean that the fans who wanted relief for the people we watched on the screen would be a longing that had turned into a rather big “No-no” somehow. The fans of Maggie and Barnabas had been ostracized and ridiculed.

I guess I’m a fan because to me, and my husband, the reincarnation and reciprocation was blatantly obvious to the point of hilarity. But fans, such as yourselves, are the people who were denied access to each other from intimidation and scare tactics by others. Absurdly silly, but sadly true. There are a few who aren’t grateful that I went through so much hell to help provide them a way to find each other, but for me it’s been the principle of the thing anyway. And a fair number are grateful, which helps. (For Lisa, though, I and Melissa have quite a bit of “hero worship” in a sense, to which Lisa often responds, “Oh stop that!” Hee hee hee.)

So that is about it as far as the progress of this work is going. I knew the internet in its earlier stages, before mobile phones were a thing almost everyone had. To me email was about as hygienic a communications tool as one could get. All the rest seems less necessary, but as far as what I can use Google Plus is “okay” for the time being, if we must use any such equipment to chat.

Take care,

Daryl


‘People say “A picture is worth a thousand words.” That is true in some cases. In other cases a word is worth a thousand pictures.’ – -Douglas Adams

 

Pit Update: October 2017

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For all the pen pals, of course, and chat about why I admire Jonathan Frid, geeking out about Canadian culture. Getting Pit burn-out but how it keeps me going anyway. Social media topics and the reasons it erodes us, especially the younger generation without similar life experiences prior to this technology.

 
How bash-culture took over from other more light-hearted heckling entertainment, as well as how criticizing became more important than deep-thought or enjoyment.

Continuing on new episode creation throughout this year of healing. Why letter-writing is healthier for us, and why the web-log I created became so extensive.

 
Discussion about pairings, particularly Angelique Bouchard and Quentin Collins, and with The Pit series how it can come into being. Focus on Angelique’s needs, how she is a much different villain than Jason McGuire.

 
Information of requirements for further chapters of the marriage novel (Margaret Josette Dupres) and how it previously received what it needed to grow: Josette’s complexity, writing influences and how the chapter process altered with the reincarnation of Sarah, and the “impossibly” happy Barnabas Collins. (More is discussed in the March 2017 podcast for the book.)

 
Finding pen friends who have healthy relationships. How choosing from personal interest is healthier than becoming a “critic”, not everyone needs a ton of conflict or villains. “The Enemy Is Us” this Halloween. I wrap up with one, hopefully harmless, heckling to “The Creation of Eve” episodes on Dark Shadows.


 

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Downloadable from iTunes, as always…

 

Margaret Josette Dupres: Chapter 43

–LINK TO CHAPTER 43: Love In The Half-Moon–

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Love In The Half-Moon Chapter 43

As I work on another May Update podcast and retrospective, in the year 2017, tonight’s offering is for those who await more in the romance of our beloved couple, Barnabas and Maggie (Josette).

This chapter finds a calmer pair as they have learned to live in a world where so many desires are granted, their child continues to grow, and their love blossoms with the same exquisite wonder many readers have journeyed before.

As good book lovers understand, music is a staple in the forming of storytelling and currently my playlist to inspire this novel is approximately 300 selections strong. For this chapter I’ve gravitated in shuffle from Artesia and Narsilion, but mainly I’d like to stress the comfort in a new artist I’ve discovered: Ludovico Einaudi. He composes classical music in our modern times and I listened to a great deal of his soothing structure while this chapter fed out from my skills.


For our couple comes many meditations in present and past experiences, as well as the understanding that their lives have ceased to behold the constant worry they once knew. The desperation is lowered but the adoration for each other is still high. Mainly it is only the two of them, but the end of the chapter includes our beloved butler, Wadsworth, and his old employee, Willie Loomis.

Please hit the link above if you would like to read.


(Post Script: New pen pals might want to dismiss this for now. It’s a long way down the road from the radio drama. Thanks.)

Pit Update March 2017

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A “sickie” podcast for new pen pals and old listeners alike.

This is a very newsy and studious monologue. I’ll address what’s going on with the letter-writing method of listening to the series and knowing that many who want to hear this can’t always download or play it via having poor equipment.

Lots of discussions of people I’m talking with lately: Auntie, Jonah, etc.
Identifying interruption fan fiction and how it works with Osheen Nevoy and Lisa Weyenberg’s works as key examples.

Tons of spoilers for The Pit and later on a lot of spoilers for the marriage novel I’m creating in tandem. As per usual, this talk and explanation is quite cerebral, as well as moving back and forth discussion on various show characters being responsible for solutions in The Pit, including Endora and Uncle Arthur from “Bewitched”, as well as Wadsworth, Captain Gregg, Lily, and Morticia.

Plenty of goodies about Doctor Who coming into play for The Pit and exactly why he will.

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Margaret Josette Dupres: Chapter 42

-LINK TO CHAPTER 42-

Here is the installment I talked about during the January Update 2017 podcast. It involves getting little Sarah’s schooling started as well as child Caleb really meeting her for the first time. Characters included are the parents, Barnabas and Maggie, Roger Collins, David Collins, Angelique, Quentin and Wadsworth. I hope you enjoy and I’d love to know what you liked.

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Please hit the link above if you would like to read it.

Gomez/Morticia + Barnabas/Josette, Dov’e L’Amore

It’s one of those nights that these two couples bless us with love once again.


Dov’e L’Amore
Dov’e L’Amore
I cannot tell you of my life
Here is my story

I’ll sing a love song
Sing it for you alone
Though you’re a thousand miles away
Love’s feeling so strong

Come to me baby
Don’t keep me waiting
Another night without you here
And I’ll go crazy

There is no other there is no other
No other love can take your place
or match the beauty of your face
I’ll keep on singing til the day
I carry you away

With my love song
With my love song

Dov’e L’Amore
Dov’e L’Amore
Where are you now my love?
I need you here to fold me

Whispered so sweetly
Feel my heart beating
I need to hold you in my arms
I want you near me

Come to me baby
Don’t keep me waiting
Another night without you here
And I’ll go crazy

There is no other there is no other
No other love can take your place
or match the beauty of your face
I’ll keep on singing til the day
I carry you away

With my love song
With my love song

Non c’e nessuno
(there is no other)
Non c’e nessuno
Non c’e nessuno
Bello come te e ti amo
(as beautiful as you and I love you)

Come to me baby
Come to me baby
Another night without you here
And I’ll go crazy

There is no other there is no other
No other love can take your place
or match the beauty of your face
I’ll keep on singing til the day
I carry you away

With my love song with my love song
With my love song with my love song


Afterthoughts?

Jealousy will get you nowhere…

But?

Flattery will get you everywhere!